Merged politically motivated topics by the same originator.

Quote from mattharper
Well, you said you couldn't be bothered to read all my earlier post, yet commented on it and now you can't be bothered to read the link, yet commented on it.  Yep, that sums up Labour, blind decisions

Quote from stolenfaces
Well there's none so blind as those that will not see. I expect you learnt thay at school.
I commented on the beginning and the end of your post which were more or less intelligable

I found that there was little point in reading further points when the first two points are factually untrue, did you read through all 150, were any of them true ?

ps I just had a quick loo through the whole list --- very amusing, by that reasoning how many 'stealth' taxes has Osbourne intoduced so far ?
Look out there will be more this week when he secretly announces them to parliament.

Quote from stolenfaces
Well I read the first 2.  "Labour would like...." not implemeted, and if it had been what would have made it stealth. Presumably you think it's terrible that people with 2 homes should have to pay any council tax on their holiday cottage (or constituency home as MPs call it)

Nuclear Tax  doesn't exist  (although I think Cameron is trying to bring something similar in, but is being prevented by EU competition rules.

I presume the rest are just as tenuous / ridiculous

Quote from jivago

I don't resent wealth on merit (as you seem to be representing above) - At all (I am wealthy actually) - .

Quote from kenp
It looks as though you have come across some lucrative tax avoidance schemes in order to escape liability. Could you post some suitable advice for us tax payers?

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I have nothing to declare but my genius.

Quote from Zprangz
The UK tax system in beer.

Suppose that once a week, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to £100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this..

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay £1.
The sixth would pay £3.
The seventh would pay £7.
The eighth would pay £12.
The ninth would pay £18.
And the tenth man (the richest) would pay £59.

So, that’s what they decided to do. The ten men drank in the bar every week and seemed quite happy with the arrangement until, one day, the owner caused them a little problem. “Since you are all such good customers,” he said, “I’m going to reduce the cost of your weekly beer by £20.” Drinks for the ten men would now cost just £80.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes. So the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free but what about the other six men? The paying customers? How could they divide the £20 windfall so that everyone would get his fair share? They realized that £20 divided by six is £3.33 but if they subtracted that from everybody’s share then not only would the first four men still be drinking for free but the fifth and sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer.

So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fairer to reduce each man’s bill by a higher percentage. They decided to follow the principle of the tax system they had been using and he proceeded to work out the amounts he suggested that each should now pay.

And so, the fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (a100% saving).
The sixth man now paid £2 instead of £3 (a 33% saving).
The seventh man now paid £5 instead of £7 (a 28% saving).
The eighth man now paid £9 instead of £12 (a 25% saving).
The ninth man now paid £14 instead of £18 (a 22% saving).
And the tenth man now paid £49 instead of £59 (a 16% saving).

Each of the last six was better off than before with the first four continuing to drink for free.

But, once outside the bar, the men began to compare their savings. “I only got £1 out of the £20 saving,” declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man, “but he got £10!”

“Yeah, that’s right,” exclaimed the fifth man. “I only saved a £1 too. It’s unfair that he got ten times more benefit than me!”

“That’s true!” shouted the seventh man. “Why should he get £10 back, when I only got £2? The wealthy get all the breaks!”

“Wait a minute,” yelled the first four men in unison, “we didn’t get anything at all. This new tax system exploits the poor!” The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.

The next week the tenth man didn’t show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had their beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important – they didn’t have enough money between all of them to pay for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and government ministers, is how our tax system works. The people who already pay the highest taxes will naturally get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy and they just might not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas, where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.

Professor of Economics.

For those who understand, no explanation is needed.
For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible

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Ooops - You shot your shot right off there