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Shooting in low light - Can anyone help me?

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Laurence Power is off-line
15 June 2012 13:33
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Certainly a faster lens will mean that the body can focus quicker.
As previously advised a grainy image is better than none.
Try going to the venue and actually shooting to check just how faster the shutter speed NEEDS to be - this will also enable you to test the body for shutter lag (time between pressing shutter release and exposure)
Think about hiring a body a D3s will set you back a few pounds, but if that can't get results nothing can
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15 June 2012 13:33
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Quote from RedChecker
She'll have nothing but DOF problems, especially in a low light environment and with a consumer-level camera's AF



Compounded with that, the lighting will probably be flourescent (which will screw up AF on many SLRs)



Full length with a 35mm or even a 50mm it shouldn't be too much of an issue in terms of depth of field and the wider aperture will make focusing easier although I'd be tempted to switch to manual focus having acquired an accurate focus.


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15 June 2012 14:48
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Quote from Hugh
Buy a 50mm f1.8 lens - something like this: http://www.ffordes.com/product/10072316359969 - about £100.
I don't know Nikon, so perhaps someone can confirm it'll work with the D70 - the shop will know.

That lens will focus far more easily than you zoom, and let in much more light.

Try to shoot with 1/250 and f2.8 if you can, and aim to take the shots when they are at the top of the bounce.

Go as high with the ISO as you have to to get a result.


Good advice.
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Emm Wood is off-lineSilver Member
15 June 2012 15:35
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That looks a bit like my macro lens, if the subject (the trampolinists) are quite far from the camera will it still pick them up on something like that?

Sorry for all the questions, I'm a new'b to indoor stuff! I'm used to studios and outside displays


15 June 2012 19:24
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Hi Emm,

You mentioned saving for a new camera; fine, but please don't make the mistake of discarding your current D70 in the process.

Despite the limitations of the 6mp sensor and the fact that technology has moved on tremendously since it first came on the market, the flash-synch speed is unusually high on the D70 (rated at 1/500th, but reported to actually go much higher) which may prove useful to you when you come to shooting fast moving subjects and are able to use either studio or speedlights. So it's well worth hanging onto if only as a second camera.

Sorry, you probably already know all  this as you own one, but I just thought I'd mention it before you bung it on eBay!.

Meanwhile, I'd echo Hugh in his comments and also suggest perhaps hiring a lens for the occasion - there are a few such companies about and this would give you the opportunity to try before you buy.

Hope this helps,

Si
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15 June 2012 20:08
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16 June 2012 00:32
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Not particularly helpful....however... there is some basis in this statement. Some of the advice you are being given is helpful, but mostly compromise.

I am a Nikon user and given the brief/scenario you've painted, my starting point would be something like a Nikon D700 body with auto ISO settings set to on - that will cope admirably with no noise to very high ISO levels in low light. I dont know what distance you are from the action or how much framing you are going to require, but I'd reach for my f1.8 85mm, or £2.8 105mm as first choice lenses and stop down according to the light, DOF you want, and focusing point. You can either shoot manual focus on a fixed point in the athletes trajectory, or simply stick AF auto-tracking on and shoot that way. Good luck



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16 June 2012 04:12
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I still have my D70 but for something like this I'd be using my D700 with 70-200GII or 135DC F2.

The D70 has a weaker AA filter than most cameras giving sharper 'out of the camera' images than my D200. For prints from the D70 you will not have the scope for cropping the image if you are to keep at 300ppi ( or 360ppi for an Epson ) without much interpolation. It is likely that you will not be in a position that is close to the athletes, hence the need for a longer focal length lens than 50mm. I do not like using the D70 at an ISO above 400.

In reality, getting 'saleable quality' images from an event such as this with a D70 and kit lens or 50mm is not going to happen. Don't get me wrong, if I know that at a 'print On site' event I am not printing beyond 9" by 6" and I'm using a studio lighting setup, out comes the D70. For that sort of thing the quality is there but as soon as the ISO is pushed it will not perform adequately.

I assume you have your public liability insurance sorted out ?
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16 June 2012 06:11
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Quote from Photoimager
I still have my D70 but for something like this I'd be using my D700 with 70-200GII or 135DC F2.

The D70 has a weaker AA filter than most cameras giving sharper 'out of the camera' images than my D200. For prints from the D70 you will not have the scope for cropping the image if you are to keep at 300ppi ( or 360ppi for an Epson ) without much interpolation. It is likely that you will not be in a position that is close to the athletes, hence the need for a longer focal length lens than 50mm. I do not like using the D70 at an ISO above 400.

In reality, getting 'saleable quality' images from an event such as this with a D70 and kit lens or 50mm is not going to happen. Don't get me wrong, if I know that at a 'print On site' event I am not printing beyond 9" by 6" and I'm using a studio lighting setup, out comes the D70. For that sort of thing the quality is there but as soon as the ISO is pushed it will not perform adequately.

I assume you have your public liability insurance sorted out ?



It's for the trampolining club I train with, the county comp (this event) is being held at my club. We can get anywhere we like as we are non-audience, as the hall is quite small they're just putting out the one trampoline with one panel, so we'll be able to go behind the judge panel who will be sitting down, at either side of the panel, or from either end of the trampoline. My partner's taken shots inside the hall before during a training session, we did have to do a little lightening in PS, but we're not gonna have time to do that on the day unfortunately, and with big lack of funds I don't have the ability to go out and hire something for the day or get a replacement just yet (wish I could!!). I think best course of action now I know this is attend anyway but maybe just shoot for my club mainly, and then if people want the images, take them away, lighten them in PS and then post them out for this one.

Definitely time to save up I think.

Thank you everyone


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16 June 2012 16:20
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50mm f1.4/1.8 - will give you some great results when coupled with the D70. The 50mm f1.8 in Nikon fit doesn't cost the earth - circa £100 or so online - or check out ebay.

Unless you feel the need and have a regular use for the additional features that come with the latest models - the D70 can still turn in some great results.

Must confess when it comes down to spending cash on bodies or glass - glass does it every time for me!
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