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07 July 2012 18:19
SarahJenBen
Model
SarahJenBen
Location
United Kingdom
London
putney

should i cancel a shoot due to me finding the photographer rude or am i over-reacting

i had to cancel a shoot recently (very short notice) because i was seriously ill, i mean actually throwing up and can barely stand. so i informed the photographer that i couldn't make it and apologized MANY times for both cancelling and for the short notice, as i thought i would feel better in time for the shoot but ended up worse. and i had a reply of '99% of those pulling out never come back' (presuming i will not reschedule without asking) and rubbing in my face that it was so short notice, well i did reschedule the shoot for 2 weeks time. but am disappointed by his attitude towards me. am i right to feel annoyed? and if so how do i tell him without further annoying him or causing him to cancel?
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07 July 2012 21:41
JamesB99
Photographer

Location
United Kingdom
Leicestershire


Look at it from the tog's point of view, was ill but didn't warn the tog you were not feeling well but left it until it was very late to cancel. All the togs see's is just another new model who cancels at the last min. The tog has no way of knowing if the reason is genuine. Also it’s not unknown for a new model to reschedule and then cancel again, happens far too often.
Try and be a bit more positive about the shoot and a little more understanding of the impact and cost to the tog of your late cancellation.


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07 July 2012 21:54
tarmoo
Photographer
tarmoo
Location
United Kingdom
Kent
Chatham

Try to act professionally and demonstrate reliability. If you cancel your rescheduled shoot you may end up with a late cancellation feedback for the original shoot, which won't help you get further bookings. Some togs do get messed around by models, especially for TF shoots. So you may need to see things also from their perspective.
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08 July 2012 01:28
jimbo_kent
Photographer
jimbo_kent
Location
United Kingdom
Kent
Gillingham

Turn the situation around - the photographer cancelled you just before you were due to leave - you'd be a little miffed at him.

Bear in mind that a lot of photographers here have alternative day jobs. A late cancellation means that it is almost impossible to try to schedule another model and so they loose a precious shoot day from their calender, so they are likely to be a little frustrated at you. If the photographer was warned that you were feeling ill and that there was a possibility that you may not be able to shoot, sometimes "stand-by" arrangements can be made just in case. I like the models I use to be as honest with me as I am with them and to let me know as early as possible if there may be a problem. Illness does sometimes happen and can't be helped.

What Tarmoo said is true - act professionally and do your best to prove to the photographer that you are normally reliable - that the cancellation was unavoidable and a one-off.

Most of all, take whatever lessons you can from this and move on.


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08 July 2012 02:06
stolenfaces
Photographer
stolenfaces
Location
United Kingdom
London
West London

Many people's initial expression of disappointment to a shoot cancellation may seem a little angry / rude / sarcastic, as you can see from many threads in the forums.
He has clearly accepted you explanation to some degree if he has agreed to reschedule.

As time passes most people would put the previous cancellation behind them and just concentrate on making the most of the re-arranged shoot.

Unless he is actually unpleasant in his latest e-mails, doing the re-scheduled shoot will provide you with the only real answer to your question, which will add to your experience.
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08 July 2012 02:10
HowardJ
Photographer
HowardJ
Location
United Kingdom
Surrey


if you're not happy working with someone for whatever reason then maybe you should cancel. You don't want to feel annoyed or awkward all day and the photographer doesn't want an unhappy or uncommitted model in front his camera all day either.


08 July 2012 02:22
Daisey_
Model


Quote from SarahJenBen
should i cancel a shoot due to me finding the photographer rude or am i over-reacting



i had to cancel a shoot recently (very short notice) because i was seriously ill, i mean actually throwing up and can barely stand. so i informed the photographer that i couldn't make it and apologized MANY times for both cancelling and for the short notice, as i thought i would feel better in time for the shoot but ended up worse. and i had a reply of '99% of those pulling out never come back' (presuming i will not reschedule without asking) and rubbing in my face that it was so short notice, well i did reschedule the shoot for 2 weeks time. but am disappointed by his attitude towards me. am i right to feel annoyed? and if so how do i tell him without further annoying him or causing him to cancel?



I've said it elsewhere this week, but surely this post will now make the whole shoot awkward?

The photographer (if on here) will log on and find that you have called him, "Rude", that you don't like his "attitude" and that you are "annoyed" with him.

How is that grounds for a good shoot? If I were the photographer reading this I would question your attitude towards modelling, by not raising concerns direct and potentially making me feel uncomfortable by reading that you feel like this about me on the forums. I don't know if I would want to complete the shoot.

I think you need to speak to your photographer.



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08 July 2012 03:01
profilepictures
Photographer
profilepictures
Location
United Kingdom
Suffolk
Bury St Edmunds

So you were Ill, happens to us all, but I fail to see any obvious rudeness here, from what you've said anyway. It's also a bit odd not being able to clarify the mood through simple
Email or phone calls.

Too sensitive then, or just not the right attitude for modelling etc etc. All the models I've ever encountered would have
Dealt with this is a quiet and friendly manner without thinking of an open forum discussion group.


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08 July 2012 03:30
John_Adrian_Studios
Photographer
John_Adrian_Studios
Location
United Kingdom
Powys
Brecon

Do the re-scheduled shoot and be an amazing model  -  this will automatically iron-out any earlier problems.


You have a great look and good potential  -  don't let it go to waste by hasty and unwise decisions.


cheeky 


08 July 2012 04:24
bartman11
Photographer


Quote from Daisey_


I've said it elsewhere this week, but surely this post will now make the whole shoot awkward?

The photographer (if on here) will log on and find that you have called him, "Rude", that you don't like his "attitude" and that you are "annoyed" with him.

How is that grounds for a good shoot? If I were the photographer reading this I would question your attitude towards modelling, by not raising concerns direct and potentially making me feel uncomfortable by reading that you feel like this about me on the forums. I don't know if I would want to complete the shoot.

I think you need to speak to your photographer.










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