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  | 08 July 2012 08:38 |
| Keltica Photographer  Location United Kingdom Middlesex Twickenham | It's all there up on the HMRC website, you should email them for a self employed code straight away, it's mandatory. |
| 08 July 2012 11:13 |
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| Photoimager Photographer  Location United Kingdom Staffordshire Stoke-on-Trent |  Quote from JennyWrenI have recently decided that I want to start trying to find paid work. I called the HMRC helpline to find out about declaring any income, just to be told that I can't declare until I am actually earning. Does this sound correct?It sounds exactly like the brick wall that I hit last year. My 'dayjob' income goes through their payroll system. I knew that I had some paid photography work coming up and it took me nearly 5 months to actually get into the system to be able to complete a tax return to declare the additional income / costs. If you already have a 10 digit code from the HMRC then you are likely to find it to be a somewhat quicker process. To start getting into the system I eventually unearthed a form that I thought was appropriate, and one of the two letters that I got back on the same day confirmed but another, posted a day earlier and from another 'section' said it was the wrong form. They then have a 5 week block on your getting a response when 'phoning up about the progress of the registration. |
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| 08 July 2012 11:16 |
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| Photoimager Photographer Location United Kingdom Staffordshire Stoke-on-Trent | Quote from KelticaIt's all there up on the HMRC website, you should email them for a self employed code straight away, it's mandatory. If you do not have a UTR code then it is not simple and the routes that you get directed in, both by the website and by telephone conversations with their staff were not working. This might have changed in the last year. Also, as the OP states, they do not let you do so until you are earning. |
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| 08 July 2012 11:26 |
| MisstyMoore Model  Location United Kingdom Essex Colchester | You have 90 days after becoming self employed to inform HMRC you are self employed ;-) |
| 08 July 2012 14:50 |
| grahamsphotography Photographer  Location United Kingdom West Sussex Chichester | Ignore what has been said on the phone, just go onto the HMRC site and register self employed, it takes about 10mins. Then register to go on the self assessment courses, you will be very glad you did. |
29 July 2012 01:51 |
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| RocketMan Photographer This member has been suspended | Also are you buying a N.I. stamp ? |
| 29 July 2012 02:21 |
| _Elise_ Model  Location United Kingdom London barnet | Quote from grahamsphotography You have to tell HMRC you are self employed by law. But once you have been on the courses you will find on average that you will pay no tax during the first 3 years. You may even get some back from previous years that you have paid. how does this work? do you mean that on avarage people that are self employed don't earn enough money to be taxed for the first 3 years?  |
29 July 2012 03:01 |
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| twentytwenty Photographer This member has been reset to pending | Ok Have a word with your local job centre, I am not sure what happens in England, but here in Scotland I went to business enterprise. told them what I wanted to do, and they organised a day on book keeping, and another day where I could meet the person from HRMC. she took us through everything about filing your tax/bookkeeping etc. I also came away from there with the phone number of my tax inspector, so if I had any problems or questions I could just phone her. There must be an equivalent small business start up in England, |
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| JennyWren Model  Location United Kingdom Dorset Shaftesbury | Thank you for all the advice, have had a change of circumstance now and will not be able to persue paid work anyway so it is now a moot point. Very helpful to remember for the future though. | |
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| 31 July 2012 16:13 |
| Hotfrog Photographer  Location United Kingdom London | Firstly relax ! Now the basic rules are if you earn money you have to pay tax . That said you are allowed to deduct your personal tax allowance and any expenses incurred with earning that fee (s). My advice and it is only advice is to get professional advice from an accountant as there are deadlines you need to meet or else you will be fined by hmrc . If you are starting out now then you have up to Sept 2013 to declare you income and tax position for tax year up to April 2013 and pay your liabilities by end of jan 2014. Go and see and accountant. If you do the right thing you have nothing to worry about . Good luck |
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